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Archive for January 25th, 2009

Review Requests

I can’t cover everything, I can’t even try. But if you let me know what you’re most interested in I know where to concentrate my efforts.

Post your review requests below. Either individual reviews or comparisons. Liquids? Accessories? What do you want to see?



Ask Leaford

When I first started doing reviews I really underestimated how many people would be contacting me privately to ask me questions. At first I didn’t really think I was a good Q&A guy. And I had never volunteered for that, darn it, I just wanted to do reviews.

But in hindsight, it was inevitable people would want to pick my brains. And what am I doing by doing my reviews if not holding myself out as an expert? So I am bowing graciously to the inevitable.

Send me your questions, your queries, your huddled curiosity yearning to be answered. Send these, the homeless, the unanswered, to me. I vape my e-cig by the golden door!

Post your questions in the comments below. I can’t promise to answer every one, but I will try to answer as many as possible, and those of interest will become blog topics.

And the rest of the community should feel free to jump in and answer, too. I can’t be an expert in everything, after all.



Parked's Review of the SmokingEveryWhere E-Cigarette

Some of you guys have been asking about this

I got it 4 months ago from a mall kiosk they could have changed but the one i do
have is a KR-808A. So they could be using a joytech now but

I’m sure there not I’m going
to go back there tomorrow and snoop around and i will let you know.

It’s not like the Mini Fogger I know that for sure

I’m going to do a video on this thing since so many peeps are asking about it
and in that video i will compare the Mini Fogger to it and do a side by side comparison

I also compared it to the following

Pee Wee
Fogger
Dura
901
Yentl
Dura
Lady Pipe

Thanks

Parked



The Who What and Where of Smoking Everywhere, Smoke Everywhere, and Smoking Anywhere?

There have been an outrageous amount of complaints about a vendor using the name Smoking Everywhere both online and in kiosks at the mall. Bad products, worse service, no refunds, refused exchanges, sometimes never even getting shipped. Obviously, we need to know who they are and avoid them, and let others know to avoid them, too. But there are actually two OTHER companies using similar names, and it seems that consumers are getting them confused with each other. One of them is actually a good company and is frequently being unfairly smeared by association with Smoking Everywhere.

So, I’ve looked into getting it sorted out, and here’s what I’ve found.

First off, there’s the “vile culprit”, Smoking Everywhere, LLC. They describe themselves as “a Florida based company pioneering in electronic smoking products,” who have “both Resellers and Store Locations in Major Malls around the country.”

Their websites are www.smokingeverywhere.com and www.smoking-everywhere.com. They have Super-minis (the KR808 according to Parked), Classic Penstyles, E-Cigars, and an E-Pipe.

They have been featured on The Bob Rivers Show and on local news segments. The video clip of the local news show is a redirect site which links to a deeply discounted outlet of some sort.

Those are all the sites I was able to find of theirs, but if anyone knows of others, please e-mail me at the address at the bottom of the article.

Smoking Everywhere is the source of the complaints. Their main websites have outrageously expensive e-cigarettes, and make the usual exaggerated claims about cartridge and battery life. They claim to offer a warranty, but they state their no returns policy explicitly: “*Please note that as per our terms and conditions, we cannot accept returns on unwanted items once used.”

Next, there’s Smoke Anywhere, Inc., the owners of Smoke 51. Also based in Florida, they also have “specialty retail locations, including kiosks and smoke shops in malls.” Besides www.smoke51.com, they have the websites www.smokeeverywhere.com and www.smokeverywhere.com. There’s also a subsidiary company, www.greensmoke.com/, which also has the address www.thevaporcigs.com.

They don’t appear to be the source of the complaints, but becuase Smoke Everywhere and Smoking Everywhere are such somilar names, they get dragged into it by mistake quite frequently.

They are the exclusive US distributer of the Loong Totem v9, an exclusive arrangement they guard zalously. They have a reputation for bad forum behaviour, and some pretty deceptive statements on their website about other designs of e-cigarettes. As I say, they do not seem to be the major source of the complaints, although some people, like myself, aren’t happy with the quality of their batteries.

It is suspicious, though, that they are both located in Florida, both have mall kiosks, and both have similar web addresses, and a similar strategy of multiple similar websites. I do wonder if there is a more direct connection between them, but as far as I know, they are unrelated companies.

Lastly, there’s Smoking Anywhere, a Flanders, New Jersey company that resells the Njoy Rn4072 Penstyle, the Njoy E-Cigar, and the Njoy Npro Super-Mini, which I believe is a DSE-103 or similar. Their web address is www.smokinganywhere.com. They seem innocent of the mess, except for sharing the same name as Smoke 51’s parent company. However, they aren’t completely innocent; they make the usual exaggerated claims about cartridge and battery life, and claim to be FAA and TSA approved without any support for their claim.

I still want a bit more detail.

First, I can’t find a list of store or kiosk locations for either one. I’d like to start compiling one.

Second, These were all the web addresses I could find in a quick search, but I’d like to know if anyone else knows any others.

So, if anyone who can give me a store or kiosk location, or who knows of any additional web addresses, could please send that to: smoking-every-any-whatever@e-smoker-forever.com, I’d appreciate it.

And it might be useful to compile a list of complaints.

There’s more than one thread on the forums for complaints about them, I know, but those get unwieldy with all the comments about the complaints, and comments about the comments, and so on.

So, the comment section of this thread will be dedicated to complaints about Smoking Everywhere, LLC. IF you have a complaint about them, whether online or in the mall, please post your experience below.

[EDITED TO ADD:]
I just found out yesterday from ECF member Providence that Smoking Everywhere recently bought out Njoy, explaining the shocking decline of Njoy’s once legendary customer service.

A letter from Smoke Everywhere Distributer Frank Simotics, shared by Providence via www.e-cigarette-forum.com:
“Smoking Everywhere just bought out the second largest company in the US – Njoy.

Sincerely,

Frank Simotics”

The original is here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/5832-smokingeverywhere-bs-email-conversation.html

ECF forum member Lacey Underhill informed me via e-mail that, “GreenCig, Smoke51 and Smokeeverywhere are all hosted on the same servers. Greencig is also www.thevaporcig.com (possibly a reseller… I looked a bit more but again)

The other two, www.smokingeverywhere.com and www.smoking-everywhere.com, I find interesting that the same “person” Elicko Eli, appears to own them and hosts them on two different servers. He does a lot of press releases! Also note that in early press releases he went by the name Elicko Taieb.

When you look at the IP addresses… Greencig, Smoke51 and Smokeeverywhere are coming out of Dallas servers and smokingeverywhere is coming out of New York and Smoking-everywhere is coming out of Phoenix. (Which would be right since he is not hosting his sites on the same server).”

Which would seem to support that they are seperate entities, but is not conclusive.

I also have confirmed reports that some Smoking Everywhere Kiosks do indeed sell both Smoking Everywhere E-Cigarettes, AND Smoke 51 brand Loong Totem units. This could suggest a connection, but the mall kiosks are a franchised seperatly by both companies, so It’s likely just that some individual owners own both franchises.

The information gathering will continue, though, and if you have any information to add, please e-mail your tips to: smoking-every-any-whatever@e-smoker-forever.com.



My Smoke 51 Video Review and Demo

Smoke 51
Model: Loong Totem v9
Websites: www.smoke51.com, www.smokeeverywhere.com, www.smokeverywhere.com
Price: $104.95 (one battery), $149.95 (two batteries)
Discount Coupon code: DSC-240 (30% off)
Warranty/Guarantee: One year on batteries.

What I Like: HUGE vapor producer, long lasting cartridge, fresh atomizer every time.
The Downsides: Poor battery performance, short battery life, poor selection of strengths and flavors.

My Recommendation: Get the starter kit and extra batteries elsewhere, but get the cartridges from them, using Discount Code DSC-240 for 30% off.

Total Score: 3.4

Atomizer Performance: 4
1- Smoke; 5
2- Draw; 3
Battery Performance: 2.75
1- Switch; 3
2- Battery life; 2.5
Overall reliability and performance: 4
Appearance: 3

Customer Service Experience: None; complimentary review copy.

Contents: 2 long batteries, one charger, one power cord, 2 cartridges.
Extras: none.
Battery charging times: 8 hours initial, 3-4 hours recharge.
Interchangeability: ePuffer Eaze Magnum, e-Cig.com New MiniCig

Narrative review:
Smoke 51 is the exclusive Loong Totem v9 distributor for the US. The LTv9 is a departure from the usual e-cig design, and it’s big feature is the disposable combination atomizer and cartridge. Not only does this promise to solve the problem of atomizer failures, and eliminate the mess of refilling and dripping, the cartridges are claimed to last as long as two packs, and the vapor is supposed to be just amazing.

You pay for all those promises, at $150 for the full, 2-battery, starter kit, and $50 each for replacement batteries. But are all the claims true?

Well, the last one is definitely true, the vapor is amazing. Awesome, really! The most vapor I have seen any e-cig produce, with the possible exception of Trog’s Screwdriver, or a similar mod. And while it is true that cartridge changes are no muss and no fuss, the cartridge life in my estimation is only one pack, not two. Of course, that is still more than any other mini or penstyle. The promise of absolute atomizer reliability, though is the real disappointment, as I found there was a lot of variability in cartridge performance, and a high failure rate, about 20% that were just bad out of the box.

In terms of my usual ratings system, the score is very mixed. I give it a full 5 points for vapor production, and like the e-pipe it is really off the chart. 5-plus. The draw is fairly hard, though, and I give it a 3. It does vary a lot between cartridges, though, and in fairness, the hard draw is due as much to the batteries as the atomizers, but for consistencies sake I am not going to rearrange my system. That averages to 4 for the atomizer.

The battery performance and durability were very poor on the batteries I received. One of the two died after only a week. On the other, the LED began to fail to activate just recently, after about 3-4 weeks use. Battery life is acceptable, about what you’d expect from a mini, 70 5-second puffs or so, which scores a 2.5 out of 5. But the switch performance is very slow; unless you do a primer puff first, the switch takes as long as two seconds to respond. Furthermore, the switch fades out consistently after only 2 or 3 seconds, then fades back in, so you can’t take a long drag. For my puff counts, for example, I had to take my 5-second inhalation in two pieces. I can only give it a 3 out of 5.

In fairness, with the amount of vapor these produce, you don’t need a long inhalation. One hard sharp primer puff, followed by just a second or two long drag, is actually plenty. Using that technique, the poor switch performance is not much of an issue, otherwise I would have rated it even lower. Still, a better performing battery delivers a much more satisfying experience, as I will get to shortly.

I only did a couple of puff counts because, as I said I couldn’t really get a good 5-second inhalation anyway. But I got about 70 puffs per battery, and about 120 puffs per cartridge. Using the double puff method, I got around 140-150 puffs per battery, and 225-250 per cartridge. That’s about one pack per cartridge, and about 2 batteries per cartridge. Typically a battery would last from 2-3 hours of heavy use, to 5 or 6 hours of moderate use, and a cartridge from 6 to 12 hours. I was using 1 ½ to 2 cartridges most days, some days 3.

Overall reliability, as I mentioned before, was a bit of a disappointment to me. Out of the 57 cartridges I tried, several, at least 8 to 10, were bad out of the box. I didn’t keep exact count, but a couple would do nothing but spit liquid, a couple did nothing at all, a couple died after only 20 puffs or so, and a couple had a foul, burnt fabric taste right from the start. And a few more would spit a small amount of liquid along with the vapor, enough to leave a bad aftertaste. Defective cartridges can be returned for exchange, though.

Besides bad cartridges, qualities like ease of draw and how well the battery responds would vary, and these variations would be consistent by flavors. The Menthol had the hardest draw, the Coffee the easiest, for example. I presume that means the variations are due to different production batches.

Nonetheless, most cartridges, at least 4 out of 5, are good, and do deliver that perfect tons o vapor performance, so I give it a 4 for overall reliability.

And appearance, well, it is a basic fake cigarette look, and that’s only a 3, average.

That all averages out to an overall score of 3.4. The score would have been better with better batteries, and again, in fairness, with a quick hard primer puff and a short inhalation, the battery performance is acceptable, and the vapor production and short drags make it a great e-smoke.

I don’t normally mention flavors, because you can normally use any liquid you want. But here you’re kinda locked in. Smoke 51 has only 5 flavors, Tobacco, Menthol, Vanilla, Coffee, and Chocolate. More variety than real cigs, but very limiting compared to other e-cig models.

And they have only 4 strengths; zero nicotine, 4mg, 6mg, and 8mg. I am not sure whether that’s per 1ml or per cartridge. I think one cartridge is 1ml, so it may be the same thing, but I’m not sure.

So, some cartridges fail, performance varies, batteries are poor, and they have limited flavors and strengths. But on the positive side, it’s an amazing vapor producer, it’s the only e-cig that will allow a short drag like a real cig, and it’s a very satisfying e-smoking experience.

So can I recommend it? Yes, but not wholeheartedly.

Despite all its weaknesses, on the whole I like the Smoke 51, and enjoyed using it. So, I do want to recommend it. But I can’t give it a whole hearted recommendation, I do have to give it the caveat that I would recommend it more if the batteries were better.

[EDIT 3-9-09: Just before my computer crashed, I received a new set of batteries which were a big improvement over the first set I based this review on. They have a lighter draw, and don't need such a hard primer puff, but the switch is slow to start and slow to cut off after the puff. All in all, they aren't perfect, but are much better than the old ones. I can recommend them more highly now, and will re-do my review when I can.]



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